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За 2004-04-16

Re: We don't need no education

It is typical double negative. Although grammatically incorrect it is
widely used in spoken English.

Regards

-----Original MessageFrom: Harutyun Sahakyan [mailto:ow***@m*****.ru]
Sent: 16 April 2004 10:34
To: job.lang.vmeste (4018996)
Subject: We don't need no education

Дискуссионный лист "Давайте изучать английский язык вместе"
Good Good, Good Day Every Body.

This week is very passive :)))

I should like ask about follow expression from song Pink Floyd "Another
Brick
in the Wall"

How it is may right to understand the words from that song => "We don't
need
no education"

all words that song is:

We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave the kids alone
Hey, teacher, leave the kids alone !
All in all it's just another brick in the wall
All in all you're just another brick in the wall

thanks beforehand
Harut

-----Original MessageFrom: "Mantea, Andrei" <AMant***@U*****.com>
To: "job.lang.vmeste" <ow***@m*****.ru> (4081883)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 18:02:12 +0300
Subject: Like +

>
> Дискуссионный лист "Давайте изучать английский язык вместе"
> > Hello everybody,
>
> Which verbs can't be used with like +verb +-ing
> fro example - I am not sure that it is right: like being or like
having
> what's the rule?
>
> Andrew
> > Сайт Листа - http://english4.ru
>
>
>
Сайт Листа - http://english4.ru

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   "Slava Tolmachev" 2004-04-16 20:48:08 (#127310)

We don't need no education

hmmm.... you should translate it "нам не нужно образования"
But for proof give me some time. I promise to explain you that asap.

Original Message From: "Harutyun Sahakyan" <ow***@m*****.ru>
To: "job.lang.vmeste (3103031)" <margarita.igono***@t*****.lv>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 12:33 PM
Subject: We don't need no education

Дискуссионный лист "Давайте изучать английский язык вместе"
Good Good, Good Day Every Body.

This week is very passive :)))

I should like ask about follow expression from song Pink Floyd "Another
Brick
in the Wall"

How it is may right to understand the words from that song => "We don't need
no education"

all words that song is:

We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave the kids alone
Hey, teacher, leave the kids alone !
All in all it's just another brick in the wall
All in all you're just another brick in the wall

thanks beforehand
Harut

-----Original MessageFrom: "Mantea, Andrei" <AMant***@U*****.com>
To: "job.lang.vmeste" <ow***@m*****.ru> (4081883)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 18:02:12 +0300
Subject: Like +

>
> Дискуссионный лист "Давайте изучать английский язык вместе"
> > Hello everybody,
>
> Which verbs can't be used with like +verb +-ing
> fro example - I am not sure that it is right: like being or like having
> what's the rule?
>
> Andrew
> > Сайт Листа - http://english4.ru
>
>
>
Сайт Листа - http://english4.ru

http://subscribe.ru/ mailto:ask@subscribe.ru
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"Margarita Igonova"

2004-04-16 15:23:25 (#126984)

We don't need no education

Good Good, Good Day Every Body.

This week is very passive :)))

I should like ask about follow expression from song Pink Floyd "Another Brick
in the Wall"

How it is may right to understand the words from that song => "We don't need
no education"

all words that song is:

We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave the kids alone
Hey, teacher, leave the kids alone !
All in all it's just another brick in the wall
All in all you're just another brick in the wall

thanks beforehand
Harut

-----Original MessageFrom: "Mantea, Andrei" <AMant***@U*****.com>
To: "job.lang.vmeste" <ow***@m*****.ru> (4081883)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 18:02:12 +0300
Subject: Like +

>
> Дискуссионный лист "Давайте изучать английский язык вместе"
> > Hello everybody,
>
> Which verbs can't be used with like +verb +-ing
> fro example - I am not sure that it is right: like being or like having
> what's the rule?
>
> Andrew
> > Сайт Листа - http://english4.ru
>
>
>
Сайт Листа - http://english4.ru

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"Harutyun Sahakyan"

2004-04-16 15:04:43 (#126972)

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