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проблема с инетом

В сообщении от 7 января 2007 07:35 Panterajar написал(a):

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что происходит при ping ya.ru? Потеря пакетов это обычно проблема не клиента
а
провайдера.

проблема не в провайдаре под fedora core 6 все работает

PING ya.ru (213.180.204.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from ya.ru (213.180.204.8): icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=941 ms
64 bytes from ya.ru (213.180.204.8): icmp_seq=3 ttl=56 time=1041 ms
64 bytes from ya.ru (213.180.204.8): icmp_seq=4 ttl=56 time=838 ms
64 bytes from ya.ru (213.180.204.8): icmp_seq=5 ttl=56 time=1079 ms
64 bytes from ya.ru (213.180.204.8): icmp_seq=6 ttl=56 time=1459 ms
64 bytes from ya.ru (213.180.204.8): icmp_seq=9 ttl=56 time=1451 ms
64 bytes from ya.ru (213.180.204.8): icmp_seq=10 ttl=56 time=1531 ms
64 bytes from ya.ru (213.180.204.8): icmp_seq=11 ttl=56 time=1187 ms
64 bytes from ya.ru (213.180.204.8): icmp_seq=12 ttl=56 time=903 ms
64 bytes from ya.ru (213.180.204.8): icmp_seq=13 ttl=56 time=803 ms
64 bytes from ya.ru (213.180.204.8): icmp_seq=14 ttl=56 time=883 ms
64 bytes from ya.ru (213.180.204.8): icmp_seq=15 ttl=56 time=1041 ms
64 bytes from ya.ru (213.180.204.8): icmp_seq=16 ttl=56 time=1144 ms
64 bytes from ya.ru (213.180.204.8): icmp_seq=17 ttl=56 time=1165 ms
64 bytes from ya.ru (213.180.204.8): icmp_seq=18 ttl=56 time=885 ms
64 bytes from ya.ru (213.180.204.8): icmp_seq=19 ttl=56 time=964 ms
64 bytes from ya.ru (213.180.204.8): icmp_seq=20 ttl=56 time=864 ms
64 bytes from ya.ru (213.180.204.8): icmp_seq=21 ttl=56 time=963 ms
64 bytes from ya.ru (213.180.204.8): icmp_seq=22 ttl=56 time=940 ms
64 bytes from ya.ru (213.180.204.8): icmp_seq=23 ttl=56 time=900 ms
64 bytes from ya.ru (213.180.204.8): icmp_seq=24 ttl=56 time=680 ms
.........................

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В сообщении от 7 января 2007 17:10 Panterajar написал(a):

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Собственно говоря ничего смертельного не вижу, все должно работать, %потерь не
смертельный

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Sun, 7 Jan 2007 19:20:39 +0200 (#627360)

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1 01.01.2007 13:18:22 13:55:24 16:58:46 18:38:14 22:59:51 23:02:46 23:03:02 23:21:33	2 02.01.2007 07:01:29 10:27:48 12:07:55 12:23:20 13:00:58 14:12:50 14:42:19 15:34:39 15:52:08 17:48:24 17:57:40 18:11:03 18:19:40 18:26:32 18:26:43 18:27:18 18:36:20 18:36:49 18:37:45 18:53:28 18:53:53 19:01:33 20:19:08 22:17:46	3 03.01.2007 01:11:21 08:45:44 11:16:30 13:53:47 17:52:03 18:01:49 18:02:29 18:22:52 18:26:54 18:39:59 19:08:26 19:18:44 19:20:17 19:22:17 19:58:27 20:08:22 21:09:57 21:10:31 21:52:37 22:34:59 23:29:44	4 04.01.2007 00:20:21 00:44:17 06:17:50 07:05:10 07:05:36 07:55:57 08:08:57 08:13:13 10:02:14 10:06:41 10:23:01 10:23:30 10:33:09 10:40:48 10:47:33 11:43:05 12:07:58 12:52:21 13:58:32 13:59:09 14:09:54 14:10:25 14:27:48 14:47:07 14:53:13 15:33:56 15:34:08 16:02:06 16:16:33 16:46:18 16:53:36 17:14:39 17:18:17 17:20:13 17:56:44 18:35:08 19:08:39 20:17:19 20:24:54 20:33:36 20:34:41 20:35:35 20:40:22 20:43:06 20:46:48 20:51:55 20:57:22 20:58:38 21:15:32 21:23:57 21:32:47 21:47:48 21:51:23 21:54:02 21:54:12 21:55:16 22:08:36 22:16:57 22:19:54 22:30:49 22:34:59 22:37:40 22:43:42 22:43:49 22:46:19 22:47:17 22:51:05 22:56:37 23:06:12 23:07:35 23:07:45 23:11:48 23:14:33 23:17:04 23:18:31 23:19:37 23:31:42 23:41:29 23:44:00 23:48:49	5 05.01.2007 00:00:49 00:17:05 00:17:11 00:17:20 00:42:10 00:46:02 00:48:08 00:48:36 00:49:07 00:50:06 00:55:48 00:56:14 00:57:39 00:57:46 00:59:01 01:00:10 01:03:22 01:12:12 01:14:44 01:16:24 01:16:31 01:16:37 01:23:12 01:34:30 01:36:41 01:38:51 01:57:01 02:02:18 02:16:54 02:19:21 02:23:37 02:25:52 02:27:24 02:29:25 02:42:41 03:03:06 04:22:25 05:15:11 06:43:50 07:07:22 07:17:10 08:22:32 08:23:28 08:28:06 10:30:36 10:39:56 10:50:39 11:00:57 11:06:29 11:15:40 12:07:17 12:25:45 12:25:57 12:44:33 13:49:34 13:50:53 14:08:10 14:11:35 14:21:41 14:25:16 14:43:55 15:12:35 15:21:45 15:52:21 16:23:10 16:26:39 16:27:20 17:03:09 17:33:37 17:48:29 18:34:55 21:24:36 21:25:12 21:25:25 21:25:51 21:25:56 21:26:51 21:27:02 21:27:31 21:27:36 21:28:06 21:38:11 21:40:06 22:55:54 22:59:54	6 06.01.2007 00:03:09 00:03:22 01:07:13 01:19:48 01:57:34 02:10:47 08:04:17 09:24:17 10:03:06 10:51:11 10:55:07 14:50:29 16:34:16 16:43:40 16:51:25 17:17:20 17:30:09 19:38:03 21:32:08 23:39:39 23:45:55	7 07.01.2007 00:40:05 00:55:04 01:08:53 01:36:16 01:39:53 05:14:14 06:48:56 06:49:06 08:33:29 12:34:14 12:40:23 12:47:51 15:21:18 17:43:57 17:53:38 17:58:58 18:08:04 20:19:02 22:53:45 23:25:17
8 08.01.2007 03:02:01 11:58:52 13:12:57 13:43:43 13:56:20 19:35:54 19:39:27 19:40:13 19:40:38 19:41:23 19:51:47 19:56:27 20:04:33 20:06:46 21:48:40 22:01:07 22:02:03 22:33:22	9 09.01.2007 01:39:31 07:54:29 07:54:42 10:02:39 10:07:44 12:35:56 15:10:24 16:28:33 17:59:50 18:00:23 18:00:50 18:20:23 18:20:55 18:24:14 18:41:25 18:56:09	10 10.01.2007 00:12:59 07:59:54 08:17:08 08:43:24 09:50:48 10:06:13 11:01:17 11:16:03 11:35:31 13:02:08 13:29:40 13:36:48 16:54:44 17:12:41 17:14:19 17:42:38 18:12:12 18:27:33 18:34:08 18:35:38 18:49:19 18:54:41 19:12:39 19:31:43 20:06:28 20:47:49 20:53:08 21:57:23 22:37:11	11 11.01.2007 02:37:11 02:42:29 06:02:39 06:15:58 09:14:26 09:46:34 10:21:41 10:42:46 10:57:47 11:30:41 12:19:45 12:25:26 15:11:28 17:22:53 19:02:17 19:54:18 23:33:22	12 12.01.2007 00:51:19 01:29:24 02:02:39 04:55:19 05:18:18 09:16:57 10:08:43 10:28:27 12:25:19 12:30:19 12:30:37 13:26:26 13:40:27 13:46:19 13:46:41 13:52:14 13:54:23 14:09:54 14:21:30 14:21:37 14:25:22 14:26:41 14:28:56 14:35:24 14:40:10 15:37:56 15:38:06 16:06:33 16:26:19 16:28:26 16:30:41 16:49:57 17:17:00 18:11:30 20:59:00 21:04:21 21:23:32 21:27:21 21:30:24 21:37:46 21:42:11 22:37:03 23:54:21	13 13.01.2007 12:17:41 12:49:47 12:49:54 14:10:10 14:39:49 17:51:40 17:54:14 21:07:39 21:27:52 22:20:05 22:48:35	14 14.01.2007 00:11:55 00:21:11 00:40:05 04:16:28 07:21:37 12:08:58 16:48:26 21:32:12 21:32:28 21:32:39 21:32:42 21:35:33 22:08:23 22:09:02 22:14:14 22:37:13 23:27:27 23:44:11 23:44:22
15 15.01.2007 00:04:18 00:05:49 00:11:33 00:47:28 01:43:20 08:04:10 08:15:35 08:19:38 08:21:07 10:24:23 16:13:22 16:26:40 17:09:55 18:20:32 18:21:28 19:03:05 19:22:55 19:33:04 19:33:40 19:52:39 20:17:16	16 16.01.2007 00:06:27 00:12:09 00:33:05 00:33:22 07:24:21 07:30:29 08:24:18 10:38:08 10:45:01 10:48:26 11:08:44 11:35:44 12:05:14 12:24:34 13:48:40 14:25:20 14:35:45 14:43:36 14:47:31 14:52:53 16:27:29 16:29:53 16:56:22 17:02:09 17:09:08 17:22:41 17:27:39 17:33:01 17:49:04 17:50:47 17:56:34 18:14:24 18:14:47 18:16:33 18:27:04 18:27:54 18:34:13 20:41:09 20:42:16 21:30:13 21:54:26 22:03:34 22:05:30 22:05:41 23:44:24	17 17.01.2007 03:50:37 06:06:52 10:47:33 11:05:55 11:39:25 11:47:13 13:11:57 13:32:32 16:07:47 17:10:01 18:23:33 18:57:05 20:23:10 21:29:07 21:33:00 21:34:49 21:36:06 22:13:02 22:20:04 22:36:04 23:53:17	18 18.01.2007 04:39:23 06:43:13 06:59:10 10:12:50 10:16:12 10:16:42 10:26:40 10:35:46 11:07:04 11:10:13 11:22:46 11:44:34 12:03:19 12:52:25 12:53:03 13:00:43 13:02:19 13:02:56 14:35:38 19:48:46 19:50:43 19:52:14 21:35:53 22:49:52 23:23:31	19 19.01.2007 06:30:29 06:40:20 08:47:01 11:07:18 11:24:57 12:16:26 13:05:39 13:11:01 14:52:49 14:52:53 14:53:04 14:53:38 14:54:43 15:01:54 15:04:00 15:37:10 17:34:46 18:06:55 18:07:34 18:12:31 22:04:52 22:40:18 23:33:07	20 20.01.2007 00:30:06 00:46:02 03:16:10 09:24:48 10:08:50 10:30:59 10:40:24 11:00:51 14:03:53 15:58:31 17:22:46 17:40:41 22:04:22 22:54:34	21 21.01.2007 00:20:09 00:21:29 03:54:17 10:08:18 13:52:29 16:57:17 20:18:53 20:35:59
22 22.01.2007 06:29:10 09:31:16 12:02:48 12:04:58 12:05:23 12:05:36 14:32:38 15:32:47 17:36:10 20:57:04 21:52:18 23:09:11	23 23.01.2007 14:16:14 23:36:06	24 24.01.2007 00:32:08 00:37:31 01:11:26 01:12:07 01:13:39 01:19:26 01:36:14 02:48:25 03:06:44 03:25:58 09:43:10 09:58:56 11:09:58 14:51:49 18:51:49 19:44:31 20:25:56 21:22:43 21:27:07 23:38:06 23:38:19 23:43:07	25 25.01.2007 00:06:25 00:18:17 01:00:46 13:45:46 14:11:54 14:17:36 16:09:26 16:32:06 17:08:44 17:52:27 18:14:33 19:08:54	26 26.01.2007 01:57:49 08:41:03 10:00:37 11:44:21 12:58:07 15:11:47 15:11:57 20:45:59 22:18:59	27	28 28.01.2007 10:35:00 11:26:33 18:01:45 19:05:57 20:06:48 20:23:32 20:31:45
29 29.01.2007 02:04:34 08:39:22 12:59:49 13:25:43 14:12:40 14:13:04 14:27:38 14:27:49 14:32:51 14:32:58 14:58:58 15:58:33 17:53:32 20:07:23 20:28:31 21:57:29 22:11:47 22:42:53	30 30.01.2007 00:55:59 06:25:05 09:42:17 10:03:34 10:03:42 10:03:57 10:04:22 10:12:23 12:27:51 13:08:41 14:24:27 14:43:52 14:51:02 20:02:17	31 31.01.2007 00:58:42 06:17:53 09:23:58 15:31:07 15:34:43 16:18:59 17:16:42 17:16:47 18:13:13 19:41:00 20:43:27 21:25:36 22:53:51

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